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This post is dedicated to pyronikari... :)

Maybe Crackpr0n/Mikey/Pyronikari was neutered as a child... and maybe he's just a babbling alcoholic.  All I know is that he's really quite pathetic.  It's rare that someone upsets me at all, and he's earned a cozy spot in my LiveJournal for it.  I'm sure all of you (except maybe Helen's ProfileHelen) who know of his existence already think he's a prick, anyway.  He began pissing me off by taking over Helen's screen name, as you can see in the chat log I've done an LJ cut on below.  As I'm sure you'd figure out, my screen name in this chat log is Tidus SeeD.

Tidus SeeD: ra ra ra :-)
rimiruru: laaaaa
Tidus SeeD: how are yewww
Tidus SeeD: *hugs*
Tidus SeeD: hmmm I wonder if you can make it to my DDR tournament on the 1st of February :-)
rimiruru: 0_o where is your tourney?
rimiruru: oh ya
rimiruru: i can't readt oo well
Tidus SeeD: my arcade in San Rafael :-)
rimiruru: cuz the pc is hooked to a tv
Tidus SeeD: ack lol
rimiruru: san rafael is far from richmond isn't it? x.x
Tidus SeeD: the arcade's called Starbase... http://www.starbasearcade.com/
Tidus SeeD: San Rafael is right across the Richmond/San Rafael bridge
rimiruru: x.x well
rimiruru: i kinda can't get there
rimiruru: no car and stuff
Tidus SeeD: you might possibly be able to take a Golden Gate Transit bus there
rimiruru: who wouldbe there tho?
Tidus SeeD: how do you get to SF?
Tidus SeeD: BART I assume? you'd just take a different public transit method
Tidus SeeD: as for who will be there, I assume a lot of RTA people and a bunch of the locals at my arcade
Tidus SeeD: and whoever else I invite that can come, I'm not publicly posting about this tournament but everyone keeps finding out about it through word of mouth
rimiruru: ah
Tidus SeeD: all the RTAers keep talking about it so it'll probably pack the arcade
rimiruru: ehhhh
rimiruru: to be honest
rimiruru: i'm not too fond of the rta ppl :x

Tidus SeeD: at any rate, there are no guarantees with people that have no cars
rimiruru: like some or most of them
Tidus SeeD: *nods* sorry to hear that
rimiruru: i'll just say that
rimiruru: ^_^ their life just revolves around ddr
rimiruru: and seems nothing else does
Tidus SeeD: well then you may not be as inclined to come... at any rate you will always be welcome in the arcade I work at
Tidus SeeD: I play DDR a lot because it's good exercise... that's why I'm always playing Exotic Ethnic/MAX 300
Tidus SeeD: whatever I can use to make me perspire the most before I go home and shower hehe
Tidus SeeD: at any rate, my arcade got Extreme so it seemed like a good time for a tourney
rimiruru: this isn't helen... but... fuck you
rimiruru: helen is > you
rimiruru: XD
Tidus SeeD: lol
Tidus SeeD: I can feel the love
Tidus SeeD: so if this isn't Helen, who is it? usually someone is brave enough to say "fuck you" and also have the target of those words to know who it is
rimiruru: ooooh
rimiruru: this is mikey
Tidus SeeD: hi Mikey :-)
rimiruru: aka crackpr0n
Tidus SeeD: oh! whassup
rimiruru: aka pyronikari etc. etc.
Tidus SeeD: crackpr0n is familiar thx
rimiruru: okie
rimiruru: anyways
rimiruru: who cares about ddr
Tidus SeeD: so what was the fuck you for :P
rimiruru: ddr is fucking retarded
Tidus SeeD: lol well then I won't invite you to a tournament next time
rimiruru: she doesn't care, even though she goes to play shitty 3rd mix at the movie theatre
Tidus SeeD: I think it's fun and it brings people together, I don't see anything wrong with that
rimiruru: omg... it was 4th plus
rimiruru: but the point is DDR is retarded
rimiruru: it's a long story why it's wrong
rimiruru: i don't want to explain
rimiruru: i'm buzzed
rimiruru: i had 9 fucking shots of tequila
Tidus SeeD: well, I don't think it's retarded or I wouldn't be running a tourney lol
rimiruru: the point is
Tidus SeeD: damn, nice :-)
rimiruru: I'm right
rimiruru: she knows i am too
Tidus SeeD: hehe well then you dun need to come :-) if you change your mind, you're welcome there too
rimiruru: so does everyone in the room reading this
Tidus SeeD: as long as you've 9 less shots of Tequila in you hehe
rimiruru: just like, ben, and jesse, and Charles who is playing the guitar
rimiruru: DDR is fucking retarded
rimiruru: helen needs to get over this niceness
rimiruru: and go
rimiruru: FUCK YOU, I DON'T LIKE YOU, AND DDR IS GAY
rimiruru: like I know she wants too
rimiruru: but you know, she's too nice to do that
Tidus SeeD: you don't like me because I play and like DDR?
rimiruru: so i'll do it for her XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
rimiruru: hahahahhaha she's laughing
rimiruru: FUCK YOU
rimiruru: THE END
rimiruru: DON'T IM HER for the rest of the night
rimiruru: DO NOT FUCKING DO IT
Tidus SeeD: I'm sorry, do I need your permission to talk to Helen?
rimiruru: I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO
rimiruru: YES YOU FUCKING DO(not really) BUT DON'T DO IT
Tidus SeeD: last I checked, she is her own free person
Tidus SeeD: hehe
rimiruru: because... trust me
rimiruru: don't do it
rimiruru: i'll make it my duty to make you regret it what you do
Tidus SeeD: I'm sorry, I'm sort of ignoring your request
rimiruru: OH YEAH
Tidus SeeD: because you're drunk :-)
rimiruru: GGPO WELCOME TO BLOCKMAN!
Tidus SeeD: and because you're being a bitch lol
Tidus SeeD: okei
Tidus SeeD: do as you like
rimiruru: and she knows better to unblock you
Tidus SeeD: *blink*
rimiruru: As drunk as i am(i'm not drunk) i'm very comprehensive
Tidus SeeD: if you say so, crackpr0n
Tidus SeeD: *nods and smiles, as if it makes any difference*
rimiruru: BYE BYE... She'll unblock you tommorow if she wants to.
Tidus SeeD: damn, are you always this bored?
Tidus SeeD: okei! nite nite!
rimiruru signed off at 2:30:24 AM.

Apparently, she didn't "know better than to unblock me" or whatever.  The very next time I see Helen's screen name on, I say hi... and it's him again.  I try to be civil, and he talks shit and blocks me a second time before I can even respond.  THAT pissed me off.  He's now blocked from posting in my journal, and every community I control.  Feel free to taunt him and call him a little bitch, as he is one.  *stretches and yawns*  Well, that was worth the five minutes it took to post.  Congratulations on being the first person I've deemed worthy of treating like shit, Mikey.  When you grow some balls and are sober enough to walk, feel free to come visit me... and I'll show you why you don't fuck with my friends.  Everyone I've mentioned your name to already wants to kick your ass, and that was before I mentioned any of what happened between you and me.  :)

Helen, I apologize... but I really had no choice but to remove you from my LiveJournal friends list in light of this.  This has already happened to friends we both share (I should post the log I was sent like 15 minutes after I posted this), so you must be aware that it will happen again... and that people aren't going to be so understanding the next time.  As long as this perma-drunk guy is going to be using your computer, I'm not going to give him a way of bashing me publicly that I can prevent... and having you on my friends list means he can post in my LiveJournal both publicly and at will if you've stored your password on the machine he's using.  Let me know if you want to get in touch with me about this... and I recommend you take your friend to Alcoholics Anonymous.  I'm still amazed that I've restrained myself this much, after being treated so rudely for being kind.

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tidus
Feb. 14th, 2003 06:49 am (UTC)
*hums and smiles*
The nice thing about this LiveJournal is that I have over 230 people who read it.  Any one of them could make his life less enjoyable all by themselves, but all of them... on Valentine's Day... um, I think you get the picture.  He fucked with the wrong guy's friends, and he will regret it over and over again as my friends make his life miserable.  Best of all, I don't have to do a thing.  Life is good.  :)

- Chris
shax
Feb. 14th, 2003 08:12 am (UTC)
DISCLAIMER:

1) I don't mean to hijack your Journal, Chris XD.
2) PLEASE don't think I'm sticking up for this jackass. Next Christmas, Mike-o needs to ask Santa for some REAL testicles instead of the marbles he's placed in a cloth sack and tied around his flaccid, sub-atomic member.

"Anyway, it's people like him who make me hate to be American."

I Don't Get It. Would having the same sort of scenario make you hate being Australian if we all lived in Sydney? Or hate being Canadian if we were huddled in our igloos around monitors made from solid ice and caribou innards, in the Frozen North of Ottawa? What does this journey into new depths of mental retardation have to do with being American?

There are dinosauric asses the world over, Wint XD. Truth be told, I'd rather deal with 'em here than in, say, Lesotho*, where secret Internet thought-police might interpret "For the love of God, Mikey, you're supposed to shit from the OTHER end of your body" as an anti-state stance on religion and slander against the Glorious Leader for whatever reason.

*Prior to this comment, I researched the government and people of Lesotho as thoroughly as any of my other hypothetical examples- specifically, I checked Dictionary.com to make sure I spelled the country's name right. No offense to any Lesotho..ans? Lesothoese? Folks from Lesotho. Y'all are OK folks, I'm sure.

Anyway! There's plenty of other reasons to dog America- our entertainment sucks, our food sucks, the participants in our political system are nearly as obvious in their villainy as your typical World Wrestling Entertainment Heel o' the Week, and we can't quite evolve away our tendency to put wild-eyed punks who wanna play soldier-boy into the White House. Don't narrow your unpatriotic focus only to the occasional fantastic dipshit XD.
tidus
Feb. 14th, 2003 08:18 am (UTC)
*lol*
Shaz, you can post in my LiveJournal at any time... for any reason.  You don't need to write a disclaimer, though I hope you'll do it again if it'll make me smile even half as big as this one did.  You are so the man, dude.  Happy warm fuzzy hearty single awareness day.  :)

- Chris
entropygirl
Feb. 14th, 2003 10:26 am (UTC)
Yup. Total dickhead. I feel sorry for Helen.
myrthrilmercury
Feb. 14th, 2003 12:07 pm (UTC)
Are you kidding?! Do you have any idea how much earlier I would have snapped? I have such a short fuse it's not funny. But now you know why I was so upset about Evan.
staplerx
Feb. 14th, 2003 05:20 pm (UTC)
Can't we all just get along? I mean... you don't really need to take what he said so seriously, especially since he was drinking at the time. Are you going to let differing opinions of a game, A GAME GEEZ, cause all this... this... drama? Mikey's reputation preceeds him, I thought of him as a pretty shitty guy in the past, since I heard things about him. Then I actually talked to him, he sounded just like how he sounded in your log, but I didn't take it seriously. He speaks his mind, that's all, I found it funny. He's pretty cool once you get to know him. So come on, just drop the whole thing, there's no point in getting 3rd parties involved either. Just pretend it never happened and move on.
tidus
Feb. 14th, 2003 08:38 pm (UTC)
I'd like to pretend that...
...really I would.  However, this isn't just happening to me... it's also happening to some of my best friends.  Worse than that... this isn't just some one time misunderstanding, he's been doing this repeatedly... and to people who have no intention of even talking to him in the first place.  He's chatting on Helen's screen name, and frankly Helen's lost most of the few friends she has left as a result of it.  She's always been nice to me as far as I know, so I have no intention of asking her to leave me alone... but this guy is getting in the way of me talking to her.  Then again, she's letting it happen... so I guess it's her fault too.

I'd like to just drop this, but I'm just the most recent person who has been angered by this guy.  He's already done this to me twice, blocked me before we could discuss it at all, talked shit about me in his own journal as a result of my 100% honest post, and the victims of his abuse have been predominantly friends of mine.  If he wasn't threatening people that were such good friends, I wouldn't even be so upset.  When he decides to contact me and my friends to apologize, this will end.  If not, this will continue.

I'm sorry that this affects you, dude.  I can tell he's a friend of yours, and treats me well.  However, my first hand experience with this guy was horrible.  The next was equally bad, despite my efforts to be kind.  I've been sent chat logs of him being an asshole, and you are honestly the first person to say a single kind thing about him.  It truly does seem like you and a very small group of people are his only friends, and I honestly can't see why you would remain so.

If you want to discuss this further, I'm not a closed minded person... we can talk more, even over the phone.  Let me know if you would like to do that, Jimbo.  I just want to see this resolved, but I'm not going to do it by ignoring this guy while he continues to hurt my friends.  I never leave the sides of the people I care about, so I guess we're sort'a in the same boat.  Thanks for writing a comment to me about this... it's nice to see that his friends have some balls.  :)

- Chris
staplerx
Feb. 15th, 2003 12:07 am (UTC)
Re: I'd like to pretend that...
Crack's offended a lot of people... A LOT OF PEOPLE. You should've heard his reputation when he was move involved with the whole ddr thing, I'm thinking that's what's affecting this right now. As I've said, don't take what he says seriously. You know the sticks and stones saying. Helen has more than "a few" friends, and if they'd leave her over one incident like this, then they aren't worth having, a friend would stick by you no matter what. And frankly, if she's letting people get in the way of others talking to her, maybe she just wants some privacy and be left alone for a bit. Its not her fault if she just wants to be left alone, she'd just be looking out for herself, and what person can be blamed for that?

Crack has angered many people in the past, myself included, but that doesn't mean this thing should be blown out of proportion the way it has. There's no need to bring other people who have NOT been involved in this first hand into this. And besides, is a journal not where you put down your honest thoughts? Uncensored? If a person can't vent in their own journal, where can they vent? You're sorta talking shit about him in your post too, so I think its all fair game. I don't feel he's threaening anyone, maybe talking a little shit, but that's hardly threatening. Threatening would be like me saying I'll kick your ass, saying bad things isn't necessarily threatening someone. Crackpr0n is hardly a threat to anything. Can't you be "the bigger man" and just let this go? It has to end somewhere.

This doesn't really affect me too much, this was just brought to my attention by one of the parties and I don't like my friends fighting with each other. And I've never met crackpr0n, I've never seen him in real life, and I don't even know him online too well. We've spoken... twice? At most 3 times so far? From what I can tell so far, he's an overall nice guy. Maybe a little twisted, but nice still. And from what Helen has told me, he's a nice guy, so from what I've heard and experienced so far, he's a nice guy. I seem to be the only guy saying a nice thing about him because I don't think he cares what you say about him, and I don't think his friends care either. You know, sticks and stone, yadayadayada. And he has plenty of friends from what I know. You never hear about him or his friends because he's in SoCal.

I'm not a phone type of guy, I feel the internet will soon dispose of the once great invention, like the invention of the phone disposed of the telegraph. I still don't see how he's hurting anyone. And I think you two have at least something in common. He's the same way about his friends, (once again, from what I know) he won't let them down. Well, maybe if you would allow him to post something, he'll post in his own defense, and I don't think you should be removing Helen from your friends list just because of an IM incident.

Well, that's all I've got to say right now. Just try to think of this sensibly, and don't take anything said personally.
tidus
Feb. 15th, 2003 04:45 pm (UTC)
Re: I'd like to pretend that...
Perhaps seeing this from my point of view will simplify this a bit.  It's true that Pr0n might just be full of shit when he has said what he said, but all I know is that my friend was threatened by him in a very clear and direct manner.  If you want the log, I'll send it to you unedited at whatever e-mail address you wish.  I have no desire to make your life any more complicated, but what I'm doing right now isn't just about this guy and me.  It's about me learning of the abuse of several people by one individual, who constantly and consistently has made it virtually impossible for them to have an online friendship with Helen.

If Helen wants to be left alone, it would stand to reason that she wouldn't be logging her own screen name on... or she'd block people.  Allowing Pr0n to harass some people who are contacting her seems a whole lot more likely at this point, especially since she has made no efforts to deny what Pr0n says about what she's doing when he's chatting on her screen name or IRC handle.  He claims she's laughing as people like me clearly get offended by what is being said, and that he has every right to act as her proxy.  There are some serious problems here that aren't going to get resolved by ignoring this situation.

If you read the log I posted more carefully, you'll notice how Helen herself insults pretty much everyone in the RTA crowd before Pr0n takes over.  None of these people have ever done anything malicious to her, yet she talks smack.  Who's the true friend here?  I want to believe she's doing the right thing, but everything that has happened points to the opposite.  People who told her they were temporarily unfriending her were taken off her friends list as well, as were people who got mad at Pr0n in a completely justified manner.

I sincerely believe that Pr0n is capable of harming others, most likely due to a clear trend of alcoholism... and that this harm could be verbal (through chatting online) as well as physical.  I also believe that it's unlikely that Helen actually does like anyone who frequents RTA, as well... and I doubt she's truly a friend to many people any more.  This is as sensible as I can possibly, humanly be.  If you have any advice on how I can solve this, I truly would love to hear it... but one thing cannot change, and that's my wish to protect my friends.

At this moment, I believe that Pr0n is going to continue to do as he wishes if no one challenges the things that he does in this fashion... and unless convinced that I should do otherwise, I'm still going to be making his life a less enjoyable one through this LiveJournal.  I believe I'm completely justified in this, based on what I wrote in this comment.  I guess the worst part of the way he has reacted to this is that he just doesn't seem to give a fuck.  His LiveJournal clearly shows this.  I don't really think he cares about much of anything, actually... let alone average people's feelings.

As always, your input is still extremely welcome... even if it's 100% disagreement with what I've said.  I hope we can agree more about how to handle this as time goes on, though.

- cK1
myrthrilmercury
Feb. 15th, 2003 04:53 pm (UTC)
Re: I'd like to pretend that...
Which is precisely why I said what I did.
tsunemori
Feb. 14th, 2003 08:37 pm (UTC)
I'm not a very good friend of CrackPr0n, but I can definitely tolerate his "sense of humour".
You might think he has a quite bad one indeed, but believe me, it's obvious who's acting immature.

Smilies ":)" and "lol" don't seem to really contribute to your 'anger'... seriously, Crack might be rude, but he's just making fun of you. And you're nothing but a joke to him.
It's not that I'm posting here to insult you, but I advise you to perhaps deal with this kind of people... in a different manner. The angrier and bitchier you are, the more of a joke you become.

And you acted just way too immature. "I'm blocking him from posting in my LJ and communites LOLOLZOLOLZZ KEKEKEKE"... gee.
Trust me, he's not mean, he just likes making fun of 'emotional' people. You shouldn't lower yourself this much. So eh, up to you. Most likely you'll just delete this comment and ban me from your LJ.

-T.

P.S. Ninjas are totally AWESOME
tidus
Feb. 14th, 2003 09:00 pm (UTC)
Nah...
...you have to earn a ban from my LiveJournal.  Thanks for letting me know that this may all be a misunderstanding, but your friend has literally and blatently threatened the health and safety of my friends.  I'm not talking something like, "if you play that song on DDR, I'll kill you"... I'm talking, "If you touch that girl, I'll come out there and severely hurt you for it.  The guy's an unstable drunk and he needs to be put in his place, as far as I can tell... and all my friends keep reaffirming this as they provide me with chat logs and such things.

I don't mind being insulted, but I do mind being blocked so that I can't talk to my friend.  The guy's a coward for talking shit, then hiding behind two blocks.  I'm not going to stand for him threatening my friends, ever, in the slightest.  If he threatens my health or safety, I'll go out there and beat the shit out of him next time I have some spare time.  Otherwise, I'll just be available to defend my friends should they ever find themselves in his presence... because I don't even trust him to be near them.

You're a better friend to this guy than you give yourself credit for.  I'd have trouble posting what you just did in defense of someone who so many people complain about.  As for me acting immature, it amazes me that you could somehow see him as acting more mature than me after I got blocked twice for not insulting him, and simply trying to talk to Helen.  I consider that to be a complete loss of perspective... you're taking one small facet of the conversation and making it somehow weigh more than all the things your friend did.  I can understand how you could do that since you're ignoring how he treated me, though.

I don't believe I was highly emotional (or even any more emotional than he was) when he started insulting me.  From the chat logs I've read, he treats any male like this that might potentially be close to Helen.  I believe he's just jealous that people have so many more friends than he does, and it comes out most predominantly when he's drinking.  Anyhow... I've written enough on this as a response.  I welcome another post from you regarding this or anything else, at any time... so feel free to contact me any way you wish.  Thank you for taking the time to write me here.  Go ahead and e-mail me if you want my phone number.

- Chris
tsunemori
Feb. 14th, 2003 09:49 pm (UTC)
._.
Yeah, y'got a good point there.
As for the phone number, I doubt you're anywhere near Australia, so there.

Hey, I admit I don't like Crack's sense of humour much. But... well, say he *is* an ass. Say he is indeed an idiot, and well, I do admit he can be immature. But... will you be a victim?

(As for 'friends'... no, I don't think he's jealous or anything. As I said, he just likes making fun of people who take things seriously...)

I didn't know anything about what he did to your friends, but well...
I guess shit happens.
tidus
Feb. 15th, 2003 12:13 am (UTC)
Re: ._.
I think I understand him a little better now.  I'm still waiting for an apology from him, though... and right now, all he's trying to do is borrow still more people's accounts (he really likes pretending to be other people!) to try and harass me.  It's quite sad; he's failing miserably at explaining himself and trying to bother me.  He's welcome to keep trying as long as he likes, though.  I'm stuck at work (at my part time arcade job) for the time being, so I have nothing better to do than laugh at him... then go back to playing DDR Extreme anyhow.

I just wanted to let you know that I added you to my LiveJournal friends list.  We may not be able to reconcile our opinions on this Pr0n person 100%, but perhaps we can still be friends.  You seem like a pretty intelligent guy... but more importantly, you seem quite loyal to the people who earn your respect.  I'll send you some of my friend's Pr0n logs where they were physically threatened later if you wish, so you can see why I'm so adamantly standing by my friends on this.

I welcome you as a new friend now, and I understand if you desire to wait to reciprocate that friendship until this whole thing gets resolved.  Have a wonderful weekend, and I hope you enjoyed your Valentine's Day.  :)

- Chris
ex_iidx353
Feb. 14th, 2003 09:44 pm (UTC)
humerous attempt...
blah blah formalities aside, this is crack... on someone else's name.

First, doesn't that make you a hypocrite? You blocking me from speaking... and then saying I have no balls?

HAHAHHAHAHHA I honestly don't give a fuck what you think of me, it's about how you do things that bothers me though. If you woulda just said your little rant about "CrackPr0n is an asshole! I don't like him!" I wouldn't have thought twice and just left it there. But noooooooo, you have to be a total hypocrite, and bring things that have nothing to do with the issue... into this picture.

First off, you don't know shit about me, who I am, or my reasoning behind anything. All you have seen is how I acted those two times, quote honestly, YES I was immature, purposely. You learn more about people when you see them at respond then pretending. How you acted was typical among snotty ass idiot teens these days. There was a reply earlier that amused the fuck outta me talking about how kids these days act. Oh man, so mistare psychologist... care to take a crack at what's making me like this?

Tsu isn't really a friend of mine, we know eachother, talk occasionally, but that's about it. Not hang out, talk everynight, shit like that. He's a bright guy that understands stuff though. That's a huge issue in this.

NO MATTER WHO IT IS... if the person knows you, but doesn't know me, they will most likely side with you. It's called bias. Just like if i were to show this to my friends, they'd automatically side with me, and think you were an idiot right? So, put all of that aside. There are only a handful of people that will look beyond the bias and see who and what was done for what reason and make a reasonable judgement as to who was being stupid.

NONE OF THAT MATTETRS THOUGH!

You're just a pissy little kid that can't take an insult. So you bitch about it and cry to your friends for support. I have no balls? Please explain that. Because I blocked you? I blocked you simply for reasons... that you don't need to know.

Friendship? Helen's losing her friends because of me? HAHAHHAH what does that tell you about these so called "friends" If a few insults can get them to stop being her friend from a person that isn't helen? Look at the way you talk about her in these comments. You are a total asshole to her.

Someone feels sorry for Helen? For what reason. You ever ask her what she thinks of me? Ask her how I treat her... and a lot of other people? It's about understanding. You guys don't understand shit about any of this, but feel you have the fucking ability to judge me or what I do?

WHEN THE FUCK DID I EVER THREATEN ANYONE? Seriously... you think you have people that can do shit to me? Then fucking try it. annoying little children...
tidus
Feb. 15th, 2003 06:09 pm (UTC)
Re: humerous attempt...
You're no longer banned from my LiveJournal, thanks to the advice of a friend.  About what you wrote... let's start at the top.  I blocked you because I tried to speak to you twice, and you blocked me twice.  You implied at that point that you didn't want to talk to me anyhow... and I figured the only posts you'd make here would be useless and rude, as they've been.  So far, that still appears to be the case.  Everything you've said has basically boiled down to, "You don't know me.  I don't care about anything I did."  It's really quite sad that you'd treat so many people so poorly, not give a shit, and then place the blame on others when Helen is harmed by the situation you created.  Grow some balls, and take some fucking responsibility for all the shit you've flung.

I can't take an insult?  That's odd... I think I took your insults rather well, and tried (despite your rudeness) to figure out what was up with you.  You earned this, 100%.  As for Helen's friends, it's become somewhat clear that Helen doesn't really value them anyway after talking shit about them... read the log again and see.  So, how are Helen's friends supposed to contact her online when they get YOU instead?  I got you twice in a row... and got no apology from Helen for any of this.  You and her treated me poorly.  When you can come up with a reasonable explanation that the treatment I received from both you and Helen was deserved, after I was nice to you both through two insulting chats, then you might actually make your first successful point.  However, you've struck out every at bat so far.  You really do have nothing useful to say at all.

Here's an example of you threatening one of my friends (again, as Helen), just because you heard he liked a girl you previously dated.  You might not remember this, but plenty of RTA people will.

<suzu> i'd fuck you up, or i'd have someone fuck you up
<Choco_OF_Taco> right...
<suzu> so don't tempt her to go out with you


I can see why you might not remember this chat, as you were drinking again!  Who would have guessed?

<suzu> fuck i'm starting to feel that last 2 shots of tequila

You can claim that I took that out of context, but I didn't.  There's a pattern here... you drink, you insult people, and you don't give a fuck about any of the results of it... and just keep doing it, despite that both you and Helen have lost friends over it.  I laugh at the notion that I'm in the wrong here... coming from you, that means nothing.  You have no worth in my eyes.  Prove to me that I should give a fuck about your feelings... and perhaps I'll actually drop this whole thing, and try to make things better for you.  Until then, you reap what you sow... and more people I know are contacting me as time goes on, backing what I've done while eager to make your life even worse.

Congratulations on the shit storm you've created for yourself.  You might be too proud to apologize, or you probably just don't give a fuck about what anyone thinks if they don't agree with you... but to me, it looks like all you can do to salvage what you have left is apologize.  I'd personally be even happier if you just disappeared from the lives of people I know, but I'm sure all the people you've fucked with in the past would appreciate an apology for your insensitivity... and maybe stop fucking with you, like you've previously fucked with them.  If you make a good faith effort to reconcile your actions with my friends, I'll drop this.  Otherwise, I believe that all I did was encourage people to stand up for themselves after you treated them like shit for so long... and I see no reason not to move things along.

- cK1
staplerx
Feb. 16th, 2003 03:01 am (UTC)
Re: humerous attempt...
Ah, I remember when that happened, it was a while ago. I was also involved with that incident, and I saw to it that it was resolved. I had a talk with choco_of_taco and he understood and just dropped the whole thing. He was mature enough to just leave it be, you should do the same. I bring up another saying, who's the more foolish? The fool? Or the fool who follows him? Are you going to follow the fool (Mikey, no offense though) and make yourself the more foolish? You can even ask choco_of_taco himself. Hell, crack may have been drinking but I don't think he was drunk, if he was drunk then he wouldn't be able to type like that. I was drinking earlier tonight and I'm fine, I can still type coherently. My friend drank a bit more than me and he ended up drunk, he couldn't talk or type straight at all. Anyway, back to the point, I still feel you're making a mountain out of a molehill and nothing more. This should've ended after the first lj post, if not before.
pyronikari
Feb. 16th, 2003 06:04 pm (UTC)
Re: humerous attempt...
actually that is out of context. You might want to include what that conversation was about. It was about Erin. Erin is my Ex. I treated her very fucking well, as she will probably tell you. I broke up with her for reasons that go a while because I don't wanna discuss all of it.

I told HER that I don't want her dating for a while. We talked about it for about 2 weeks and in the end she agreed with me. To further it I stated that "If you decide to break this randomly without atleast talking to me about it, then I'll beat the fuck outta whoever it is you're with, no questions asked". ^_^

I heard rumors about "choco". Nothing serious, but stuff that I heard were brought to my attention. I thought I'd talk to him about it a little and tell him what I told her.

As for the alcohol thing. HAHAHHAHAHA If you think alcohol affects how I act, you don't know shit. I say the same sober as drunk. Ask anyone that knows me.

In the end, you all are assuming crap you know nothing about. Until you learn don't speak. I could care less about what you say about me, but this is more about Helen than me. Don't you ever talk to her again, this is more than annoying me. How the hell can you people just fling her name around in such a demeaning way and not care? Especially when the person you have a problem with is me. Stop being so fucking immature and attack the problem, not the associate.
(Anonymous)
Jun. 3rd, 2003 08:07 pm (UTC)
Re: humerous attempt...
Hopefully nobody will get offended that I'm posting anonymously. I only bring this up because some people seem to take it badly.

Let's take a look at this....bizzare....quote:

:I told HER that I don't want her dating for a while. We talked
:about it for about 2 weeks and in the end she agreed with me. To
:further it I stated that "If you decide to break this randomly
:without atleast talking to me about it, then I'll beat the fuck
:outta whoever it is you're with, no questions asked". ^_^

Well there are two things here:

a) Man Cracker you NEED to hear yourself talk. Do you realize that you just THREATENED someone into not breaking their word? Threatening someone with comiting a crime (yes beating up someone is a crime) is criminal coercion. It's a misdemeanor with a penalty of up to one year in prison.

Know what? If someone doesn't keep their word with you it is likely for one of two reasons: a) They didn't really agree ex anima or b) They have no real interest in keeping their word.

b) I've seen you Crack. IMHO as someone who has well over fifteen years of experience in a number of martial arts that unless you are rather well trained in some fighting technique I'd say you have less than even odds of beating an average man and no hope of beating a well trained man of average strength, weight, etc...
myrthrilmercury
Feb. 14th, 2003 09:49 pm (UTC)
From what I've been reading, I'm almost certain she's in an abusive relationship. All the signs are there. He's keeping her from her friends, and has weakened her to the point where she defends his behavior. (The public post in her journal was another red flag.) If this is true, this is not for you. It's for a professional. I know you're trying to help her, but it appears she just may get further isolated and/or the crap beaten out of her. It'll happen again if you meddle any further without professional intervention. Go look in the phone book if you want to. You'll find someone there.
ex_iidx353
Feb. 14th, 2003 10:06 pm (UTC)
... HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA, HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH, HAHHAHAHHA
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH...

... okay... no wait...

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

oh man. For one, we're not in a relationship. Close friends. ^_^ Uhm, I let her talk to her friends. She was sitting no more than 2 feet from me playing games(I think she was playing GTA:VC at the time), and she knew what I was doing and didn't stop me. ^_^ So uhr... yeah, that makes no sense. If she didn't like what I was doing, she tells me, and I usually stop(it matters what... but tickling her is fun... and she laughs and gets mad and punches me).

Again, look, you guys don't know shit. THE FUCKING END.
yunaleska
Feb. 15th, 2003 01:50 am (UTC)
Uuuuhh, Mikey and Helen aren't together... and FYI, mikey would never, in his life, hit a girl, ever. To make accusations like that is really out of your juristiction, for you know nothing out the situation Mikey and Helen are in. I suggest you don't but into something you are not privy to and do *NOT* accuse people you know nothing of about "abusing" people.
staplerx
Feb. 16th, 2003 05:25 am (UTC)
What relationship? I see none. Weak? Helen is not weak, her punches hurt. Crack would not hit Helen. Isolated? She is currently, hmm, I guess I could say unbound, free perhaps, but definitely not isolated. I do agree however that you people should stop meddling in this. (I should take my own advice, but hell, I never do, so why start now) You have, with your comment, blown out of proportion something that was already blown out of proportion, comparable to adding insult to injury. I would like what you are basing your theory about this being an abusive relationship on, are you certified in some way for this? And how you can tell when you don't even really know the people involved. Yet another saying, don't assume, it makes an ASS out of yoU and ME.
myrthrilmercury
Feb. 16th, 2003 01:17 pm (UTC)
Yes, I have had training from SafeNet. So kindly shut the fuck up.

You know what? Forget I tried to help. If Helen is stupid enough to let this guy manipulate her, fine. She deserves whatever happens to her. I guess it serves me right for trying to be a kind person.
pyronikari
Feb. 16th, 2003 06:10 pm (UTC)
So... you're trained by safenet. Does that make you knowledgable enough to judge a situation you know nothing about? Maybe that would be a pretty good conclusion, from the information you know. That information being the word of your friend. If you read my little tidbit about "arguements with friend bias" then you'll know where I'm getting at.

You know nothing, I highly doubt you should get into this. You know less about my personality then the situation.

What I show about myself is merely what I want to show to the person there. Not my whole self. I can prejudge just like you and think Mythril here is a stupid slut that thinks she can fix the world and knows enough to solve any problem. I'm not gonna make that judgement though. I'm just gonna stick with she doesn't know the sit, so she can't judge it.

Why do you people crowd around in your little groups and shit talk about people you don't like. Instead of other means that are more logical.

If he wanted to get a hold of Helen, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT FUCKING HARD. OMG, e-mail... huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu.

I talked to Cerberus. Not really, but he sorta understand the approach of all of this that I was going at. Most of you are too immature, and too petty to realize that though. Hold your grudges all you want. I can careless. DO NOT BOTHER HELEN THOUGH. If you're this fucking stupid, I seriouslt don't want you bothering her. I hold her a little too high to allow her to do shit like that. Of course though, it's her choice. She'll do what she wants and I can't change that. I think she agrees with me atleast enough to realize that a lot of the people here replying are fucking idiots.
ex_macalania94
Feb. 15th, 2003 08:39 am (UTC)
Hey...Hi.
If you forgot, this is Amber.
I got my internet back, I was shut off before because our computer was broken.
^_^
tidus
Feb. 15th, 2003 04:24 pm (UTC)
Hi!!!
*hugs you*  I love how you imply that I could have somehow forgotten you.  What's up... how have you been?  I hope you had a very happy Valentine's Day.  So when do we get to talk, anyway?  *kisses your cheek*  I hope all has been well in your life, and I'm really glad that your computer is fixed again so that you can keep in touch with your friends again.  :)

- Chris
ex_macalania94
Feb. 15th, 2003 07:46 pm (UTC)
Re: Hi!!!
*Hugs* Had to be sure you didn't ^__^;
I've been good, thanks! My Valentine's Day was lonely..yours?
If you want to IM me my AiM is Beat Dreamer ^_____^;;;
~Amber
zerosconcubine
Feb. 24th, 2003 08:58 pm (UTC)
I say rack him Chris..rack him good. I hate when people pretend to be others..its annoying >.<. I am sorry that he was bugging you ;.;
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